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adrian_turtle ([personal profile] adrian_turtle) wrote2023-09-11 03:08 pm

generational shift

Last year, I bought something called a "soup sock," that isn't as silly as it sounds. It's a cheesecloth bag, big enough to hold an entire chicken. If you want to make chicken soup and strain it through cheesecloth for a clear broth, you don't need to pour the pot of soup through a strainer. You can just put the chicken in the cheesecloth bag before cooking it.

They include a recipe in the package, because of course they do. I've kept the recipe card because it IS silly, especially for something called "Mama's Old Fashioned Chicken Soup." It contains a whole chicken, 2 onions, and 2 tablespoons of fresh cracked pepper. So far, so good. It also contains 3 cups of diced celery, and 2 packets of sugar substitute.

It shouldn't feel so very peculiar that "Mama's Old-Fashioned" could refer to a Boomer or Gen-X woman who relies on artificial sweeteners (because she doesn't have a teaspoon of sugar in the house? Because she can't imagine using a half a cup less of celery?) But on the other paw, I know my grandmothers used saccharine tablets everywhere it was appropriate and some places it wasn't, and my mother preferred aspartame. I have cousins-in-law who are already mothers of college students, and they cooked with sucralose for decades, though generally the kind that can replace sugar cup-for-cup.
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[personal profile] pameladean 2023-09-12 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
I think the soup sock is rather clever.

I don't find celery bitter, but that much of it would just be monotonous. I'd replace a third of it with carrot and another third with potatoes. I don't think chicken soup generally has potatoes, but my family are potato fanatics.

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[personal profile] pameladean 2023-09-13 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
The only good gluten free noodles I've had were standard rice noodles, and those might be weird in chicken soup. Potato certainly works better than that would, it's just not very noodly.

The rest is frankly above my pay grade! P
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[personal profile] evalerie 2023-09-15 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw, good matzo balls are one of the treasures of Passover!

Speaking as a person with celiac, if I was putting gluten-free noodles into soup, I'd try Rice Ramen brand, because those are intended to be served in soup. They're available with or without the soup packet, as just plain noodles.

My pick for gluten-free pasta is that I bought an electronic pasta machine and make my own. You put in your choice of flour -- gluten-free in my case -- plus water and maybe egg, and in about ten minutes you have pasta that is freshly made and amazing! There's a whole rabbit hole of online communities about home pasta machines, and there is a store in Italy that sells additional dies that can be used to make pasta in different shapes. I am not sure how well homemade pasta would stand up to sitting in soup, but I think it would do reasonably well.
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[personal profile] evalerie 2023-09-13 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I too usually don't find celery bitter, though when I grow homegrown celery I've gotten a much wider variety of tastes, and some years it is a little bitter, while in most years it is very far from bitter. Though even in those years the leaves are often very strongly bitter.

Are you the Pamela Dean who wrote the book Tam Lin -- one of my all-time favorite books? Just curious! If it is yours, thank you very much for writing it!!
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[personal profile] pameladean 2023-09-13 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I am! Your very welcome. I'm glad you liked it.

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